Balance between religion and science benefits humanity

June 22, 2012 in Featured Question of the Week, Question of the Week, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Bashar Shala

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

Knowledge of physical science and religion are perfectly compatible. When there is incompatibility it is always due to human’s shortcomings and lack of understanding. Physical science is a quest to understand the greatness and perfection of creation and then deploy it in service of mankind. Religious knowledge provides the tools of the heart and mind needed on this quest. The balance between the two produces most benefit for humanity.

Taking either one to an extreme while ignoring the other will end in disastrous results. When science moves with no regard to religious morality and ethics, it will result in arrogance and God-complex for the individual and destructive inventions to humanity. Scientists may deny God altogether and trust only in the physical realm. They have to come up with many “theories” to fill in the gaps when the human mind is unable to contain the vast knowledge and power of the divine.

When religious knowledge ignores the progress of science, it will appear backwards and out of touch with reality. People will lose confidence in religion and move away from God due to ignorance of man. The earth is a globe and it rotates around the sun regardless of clergy’s understanding of science or God.

The perfect balance is when religion enlightens science and not opposes or ignores it; and science commits itself to the ethics and morals of religion, discover the tools God placed for us and use them to serve His creation, and explore the marvels of the Creator.

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Truth is not the same thing as facts

June 22, 2012 in Featured Question of the Week, Question of the Week, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Mitzi Minor

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

The great Jewish wise man Elie Wiesel has said that some stories are true even though they never happened. How does he know that? I sense that he is right. How do I know that?

Nature writer Barry Lopez has written that truth is not reducible to facts and theories, that it is alive and unpronounceable and best conveyed in story, song, and poetry. How does he know that? I sense that he is right. How do I know that?

Religion at its best guides us to discoveries of truth, which is not the same thing as “facts” (though it isn’t antithetical to facts; rather, its primary interest is elsewhere). So, how do I know, how do we know, when we have encountered truth?

The best answer to this question (or, perhaps, these questions) that I have found comes from the great spiritual teacher Parker Palmer who claims that truth is relational and is best known in relationships. Here is why the great religions of the world offer to us a relationship with something beyond ourselves. As a Christian, I am offered a relationship with the God whom I first encountered and continue to encounter in the stories of Jesus of Nazareth. The stories and prayers and poetry of the Hebrew Bible help me appreciate the stories of Jesus more deeply, which deepens my relationship with the God who is revealed in those stories.

In the context of this ever-deepening relationship, I have come to know such truths as these (in no particular order):

  • God is a God of Life. Anything, therefore, that does not nurture and sustain life is not of God.
  • Forgiveness is a far more life-affirming response to wrong than vengeance. God forgives. I am called to do the same.
  • Grace infuses the universe. Thanksgiving is the truly natural response to such grace.
  • Creation is a loving gift from God; when I receive it in love and respond with love, then I have the opportunity to live in beauty.
  • Violence solves nothing. It signals the failure of relationship.
  • Everyone is welcome at God’s table. Everyone.
  • The journey to know God more deeply is a journey away from ego-centricity so as to come home to my truest self. Ego-centricity, therefore, is the opposite of the journey to God. It is also the opposite of real relationship with others since its focus is on oneself.
  • The journey to God, therefore, also creates the possibility of significant relationships with others.

These are truths I know at this moment in my life. But because they grow out of my relationship with God and this relationship grows and changes, as any relationship must if it will remain vibrant, I expect that 5 years from now I might say any of the above things a bit differently (or maybe even a lot differently). The foundation, the “constant” truth that I know isn’t any of these declarations but my relationship with God.

For me, then, the knowledge which religion offers is relational knowledge.

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Some knowledge must be revealed by God

June 22, 2012 in Featured Question of the Week, Question of the Week, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Chris Altrock

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

Some of the knowledge of religion is similar to the knowledge of science in that it is the result of human observation and analysis. For example, Wisdom Literature in the Old Testament such as the book of Proverbs or Ecclesiastes records conclusions about morality and spirituality which thinkers have reached after observing cause/effect and action/reaction in these areas. Rather than watching atoms or planets these authors have watched humans and circumstances. They’ve noted that certain behaviors tend to have certain consequences, and that specific lifestyles often lead to specific outcomes. They cover the “science of living.”

In addition, some of the information contained in Scripture about Jesus carries this same quality. For example, Luke introduces his Gospel by stating, “Many people have set out to write accounts about the events that have been fulfilled among us. They used the eyewitness reports circulating among us from the early disciples. Having carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I also have decided to write a careful account for you…” (Luke 1:1-3 NLT). Writing his first epistle, John describes how “we saw him with our own eyes and touched him with our own hands…We proclaim to you what we ourselves have actually seen and heard…” (1 Jn. 1:1-3 NLT).

But some of the knowledge of religion is vastly different to the knowledge of science in that it claims to come “from above.” Religion acknowledges that there is a limit to human understanding and that some knowledge must be revealed to humans by God. Jesus tells Peter that certain knowledge which Peter has gained has been revealed to him by the Father (Matt. 16:17). Paul writes of a “secret and hidden wisdom of God” which “God has revealed to us through the Spirit” (1 Cor. 2:7-10, ESV).

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‘Heart knowledge’ and ‘heart action’

June 22, 2012 in Featured Question of the Week, Question of the Week, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Maxie Dunnam

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

We cannot talk about “faith knowledge” the way we talk about “science knowledge,” because faith is not separated from “all” knowledge. What we claim as scientific knowledge cannot be isolated from “faith”; our “faith perspective” is shaped to a marked degree by the whole of our knowledge.

There is, however, what we might call “heart knowledge” . . .that which we know in our “hearts” that may transcend other kinds of knowing. We know “in our hearts” (and it can be verified experientially) that meaning in life comes through serving, giving ourselves in love for others, and serving causes greater than ourselves. We know (experientially) that a “higher power” sustains us in our recovering from addiction. We know in “our hearts” that fidelity in love and friendship adds a dimension of meaning to our daily living is not found otherwise. Perhaps, more than any other knowing, we know that when we are “in harmony” with “spiritual reality”…that which is beyond the material bounds of mind and matter, we find our greatest joy. A primary expression of this is the “heart knowledge” of sin (actions and relationships that separate us from God, others and our core identity) and that we are forgiven and accepted by God.

If there is “heart knowledge” then there is “heart work”. . .action, study and reflection, worship and relationship. . .that provide, cultivate, and confirm the knowledge that makes us “fully human” as divine/human beings.

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Imaginary numbers and what can be

June 22, 2012 in Question of the Week, Spotlight Answers, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by David Mason

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

On the way to appreciating the kind of knowledge that religion produces, we might consider, briefly, the kind of knowledge that math produces. Math, we presume, produces an empirical kind of knowledge, a kind of knowledge that is rooted in a shared reality, since math is merely the symbolic description of what really happens in the real world. “2 + 2 = 4″, then, is a mathematical kind of knowledge, because the logical premises of the mathematical expression correspond with arrangements of quantities that we can all reproduce readily with bananas, automobiles, and one-legged dogs.

But math is not so straightforward. What is the square root of negative one? The math we learn in elementary school says there is no such thing. It’s like Santa Claus. You can say there’s a square root of negative one, but you’d just be saying.

On the other hand, saying that there is a square root of negative one makes possible all sorts of things we call “knowledge”. The electrical wiring in our houses and the computer hardware that we use to write interrogations of epistemology depend on saying that there is a square root of negative one. “Imaginary numbers” — that’s what mathematicians really call things like √-1 — lie at the root of a kind of knowledge on which we all, collectively, depend.

Marcus du Sautoy, a real-life, Oxford University mathematician, says this about √-1: “We could have said, ‘this number doesn’t exist’. But we say, ‘no, come on, let’s imagine something that would work.’” Imaginary numbers exist not to express what we have to think, but to express what we can think.

Imaginary numbers aren’t simply practical. Some mathematicians say that Euler’s Identity, which uses an imaginary number, is math’s most beautiful equation. They use that word, mathematicians do: beautiful.

And no wonder. There’s something about math — especially the math of imaginary numbers — that’s like art.

Religion, too, is like art. Religion, like poetry, like painting, like music, does not affirm what we have to think, but appeals to us through the ways it expresses what we can think.

Perhaps there’s a distinct difference between the knowledge that “2 + 2 = 4″ represents and the knowledge that “god exists” represents. If so, we might very well speak of different kinds of knowledge. But the concept of “knowledge” may be useless if it is infinitely divided into categories and subcategories that are distinctly different from each other.

Perhaps “knowledge” is one, and it arises from the uniquely human creativity of thought that we find in math and biology and epics and physics and sonatas and scriptures. When science, art, and religion really work, they don’t settle for what is, but similarly see what can be.

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Different types of knowing

June 22, 2012 in Question of the Week, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Albert Kirk

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

The Myers-Briggs personality profile distinguishes people who primarily approach the world in a sensate manner from those who primarily perceive in an intuitive manner.

Science is almost totally sensate. Religious knowing is more intuitive. One “knows” deep within. A religious belief/doctrine makes sense, and helps make sense of ourselves and the world around us. Consider how science and a friend “know” a person. Science knows that this person weighs so many pounds, is so tall, has this color eyes, etc. The friend knows at a totally different level. The scientific data are not unimportant, but knowing “the person” happens in a more intuitive way. One’s appreciation for or love of the other can be expressed more fully in poetry than in prose. This doesn’t mean that faith is impractical. Over and over I discover that Christianity works. Living by the revelation of the Bible and being guided by two millennia of Christian tradition leads to a life that is joyful, meaningful and energizing.

Another approach is to compare inductive and deductive ways of knowing. While science is primarily inductive, faith is primarily deductive. One makes an act of trust in the sources of God’s revelation. Faith then is obediential. One accepts as true what God has revealed, first through the great teachers of Israel, then through Jesus Christ. But there is also an inner witness (Christians would call this the Holy Spirit) which corroborates the external testimony. Thus the ‘knowing” emerges from an inner assent to divine revelation.

Just as scientists look at the same data and come at times to differing conclusions, so there are differing interpretations of the sources of revelation. Just as there are “schools” of scientific interpretation, so the Christian denominations can be understood as interpretative approaches to the Scriptures. My Catholic faith, at least in its best moments, sees no conflict between scientific and religious knowing. We believe that the God who created the universe is the same God revealed in Scripture and tradition.

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Scientific phenomena impossible to explain without faith

June 22, 2012 in Question of the Week, Spotlight Answers, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Randolph Meade Walker

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

I believe faith is necessary to yield a comprehensive synthesis in understanding life and the universe. Faith according to Hebrews 11:1 is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. The physical side of life is only one dimension of existence. In fact, without faith I believe it is impossible to fully explain scientific phenomena. For example, according to atomic theory and the law of electro magnetism the physical universe beyond the element of hydrogen does not make sense. Positively charged protons within the nucleus of an atom should repel each other causing the atom to split apart and hence, the resulting disintegration of the physical universe. The only explanation that I have found for this not happening is contained in Colossians 1:17, which states “… by Him (Jesus Christ) all things consist.”

On the other hand, faith that is only used to explain gaps in human knowledge is not faith. I agree with the theologian Paul Tillich, who wrote that “argumentum ex ignoratia” is a “weak and disgusting form of apologetics.”

In summation, historians divide the Middle Ages from the early Modern period by labeling the former the Age of Belief and the latter the Age of Reason. I would suggest that this is an artificial compartmentalization. For example, Saint Thomas Aquinas believed because he reasoned. Hence, he had a reasonable faith.

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Wisdom is not subject to empirical measurement

June 22, 2012 in Question of the Week, Spotlight Answers, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Mark Matheny

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

From my perspective, there need not be a conflict between scientific knowledge and faith’s knowledge. For the latter, I prefer the word “wisdom” and see it as applying to the Christian faith’s experience of the nature of our human existence and the redeeming power of God’s Love in Jesus Christ. So, for example, the classic affirmation, “I know that my Redeemer liveth” is a statement from the experience of a believer that is not subject to the same kinds of empirical measurement we apply in science.

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Both physical and spiritual knowledge is essential

June 22, 2012 in Question of the Week, Spotlight Answers, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Burton Carley

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

Science and religion are human enterprises, twin siblings born from one of the defining characteristics of our species. Each proceeds from our insatiable curiosity. Science is the response to the question of how the physical world works. Religion is the response to the question of why we exist.

Science seeks facts, laws and principles that give us knowledge about the universe we live in. Religion seeks to discover what purpose or meaning lies between the dual reality of being born and having to die. Science addresses how life began and evolved while religion addresses what the good life consists of.

There is a difference between the kind of knowledge science presents and the kind of knowing that religion explores. Science establishes the facts about a tree while religion writes poetry about its beauty or uses it as a metaphor that points to the depth of human experience.

Science has a language and so does religion. We have evolved not only physically but also spiritually. We are homo sapiens but also homo religiosus, and I use the language of the spirit. The spirit is not a thing but it is real. The spirit is our capacity for appreciative awareness. It is the human ability to see, to feel, to hear, to understand, to discern value and quality. The spirit sees things in relationship and finally in right relationship. The life of the spirit leads us to recognize that our contentment or fulfillment must be found in a place beyond earning, deserving and rewarding. The life of the spirit calls us out from ourselves to a larger life—the abundant life, the meaningful life, the aware life, the moral life, the good life or the knowing life.

Science increases our knowledge about the connections of the physical world while religion helps us to understand the connectedness of our life. Knowledge as fact is different from the appreciate awareness of knowing. Both are essential to us. One talks about the how of material life, and the other talks about the qualities of the spiritual life like humility, compassion, love, and justice. There is the poetry of how (science) and the poetry of why (religion), and both serve the sense of Mystery in which we live and move and have our being.

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Knowledge of self and others

June 22, 2012 in Question of the Week, Spotlight Answers, What are the boundaries between science and religion? by Rashad Sharif

Noted scientist and best-selling novelist Alan Lightman, a Memphis native, asks what are the boundaries between science and religion, the two greatest forces that have shaped human civilization. What are the different kinds of knowledge in science and in religion? And how do we come by those different kinds of knowledge? Members of the Faith in Memphis panel respond.

If science has knowledge about the physical world, what kind of knowledge does faith have?

Faith has knowledge about the metaphysical world in the form of (1) detailed descriptions of psycho-spiritual stages of development and processes of developmental advancement, (2) explanations of how people behave at various states of psycho-spiritual disposition, (3) power to predict, based on those explanations, how people will behave in given situations, both current and future, and (4) underlying principles of long-term developmental success (blessedness) or loss.

For example, Christ’s Sermon On The Mount gives us the beatitudes (“Blessed are…). The Qur’an gives us the three stages of the nafs (self or soul) and multiple behavioral descriptions of those who ultimately develop and those who ultimately end in loss. All of these things constitute psycho-spiritual knowledge which has also been referred to as “knowledge of self and others.”

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